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Biblical narrative, missional context, and same-sex sexual relations all in the same breath

Michael Bull I disagree. The modern conflict between Islam and secular humanism, and their common hatred of the Church, is simply a global version of the events of the first century. Islam (like the unbelieving... (Sun, 24/09/2017 - 12:27)
Peter replied to Peter I should also mention I’m an ISTP. I don’t place much stock in emotions; I need to see evidence. I suspect my personality has quite a bit to do with my beliefs. :) (Sat, 23/09/2017 - 00:49)
Peter replied to Jason Jason, I get what you’re saying, but as much as ambiguity and uncertainty can frustrate me, I think I prefer that over the security that comes from trusting someone who claims to speak on God’s... (Thu, 21/09/2017 - 16:02)
Jason replied to Peter Agreed. Probably why we are both reading Andrew’s blog. In reading this blog, listening to a Sunday morning sermon, engaging other Christians, listening to my co-workers speak of LGBT matters, I... (Thu, 21/09/2017 - 01:25)
Peter replied to Peter That last paragraph in my comment above should say “further tarnish…” (Wed, 20/09/2017 - 04:10)
Peter replied to Jason Jason, in the Bible it’s all very magical: People knew God’s will on different topics because they used a Urim and Thummim, received angel visitors, or had visions. We live in a different world. When... (Wed, 20/09/2017 - 03:55)
Jason replied to Andrew Thanks for the challenge to think along prophetic-apocalyptic lines in our present context. I am most interested in anything written from the perspective of our collective witness as the people of... (Wed, 20/09/2017 - 02:55)
Jason replied to Peter Do not the Scriptures demonstrate repeatedly that God raised up men and women to accomplish his purposes at specific times and places? Why would it be any different today. How else are we to... (Wed, 20/09/2017 - 02:54)
Peter replied to Andrew I don’t necessarily have a problem with your test case. What I have a problem with is your proposal that people or communities should attempt to speak on God’s behalf. I realize people have been... (Wed, 20/09/2017 - 00:26)
Andrew replied to Peter A few thoughts… It’s interesting that you highlight the accommodation. In many ways I’m more nervous about the emphasis on “judgment”. This is where I feel the issue with “speculation” lies. The... (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 18:05)
Andrew replied to Daniel Hoffman Thanks, Daniel. You may be right, but first let me try to push the line of thought a bit further. Jesus addressed Jews in the first century. He told them that the union of man and woman in marriage... (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 17:49)
Peter I’m really not convinced we should be about the business of trying to create or extend the narrative to accommodate our times. It seems anything we declare is simply speculation since I see no reason... (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 17:16)
Daniel Hoffman I don’t see how your last paragraph follows. The creational standard was the one Jesus urged on his contemporaries when they questioned him about divorce, even saying that Mosaic regulations on... (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 13:38)

The Nashville Statement and the future of the church

peter wilkinson replied to Andrew I disagree. The whole of 24-32 describes a consequence: A ‘therefore’ proceeding from 21-33. As far as same sex practices are concerned, the immediately visible form of such practices was cult... (Wed, 20/09/2017 - 11:43)
Andrew replied to Doane Thank you, Darren. An excellent comment.Yes, there may be some holes.God’s will for creation is not in dispute—not with me anyway.It was not God’s will for creation that couples should divorce, but... (Wed, 20/09/2017 - 11:07)
Andrew replied to peter wilkinson Paul also directly attributes unnatural female sexual activity and the whole vice list of 1:29-31 to the rejection of the creator and idolatry. There is no reason to think that he has specifically... (Wed, 20/09/2017 - 10:37)
Doane replied to Andrew Thanks Andrew, A few thoughts and then I’ll attempt to graciously corner you. The Acts verse regarding ignorance echoes when Paul says that the Jews crucified Jesus out of ignorance. Which seems a... (Wed, 20/09/2017 - 06:21)
peter wilkinson replied to Andrew The three forms of same sex practice in the classical world were cult prostitution, paedophilia and master-slave relations. The Romans 1 passage concerns the consequences of idolatry, in which male... (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 22:49)
Andrew replied to peter wilkinson Do you have any evidence that Jewish revulsion against same sex practices was not confined to cult prostitution?I’ll check Loader when I get home. Philo has quite a lot to say on the matter. Given... (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 22:43)
Andrew replied to peter wilkinson What are your reasons for saying that cult prostitution is addressed in Romans 1?I think there is a very open discussion going on about what the Bible says: Brownson, Loader, Hill, Holmes, DeFranza,... (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 21:47)
peter wilkinson replied to Andrew Thanks for the clarification. Do you have any evidence that Jewish revulsion against same sex practices was not confined to cult prostitution? Anyway, that is what is being addressed in.Romans 1:21-... (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 21:39)
Andrew replied to peter wilkinson What I meant by the phrase ‘the missional implications of the LGBT “problem”’ was that many people in conservative and evangelical churches are finding it extremely difficult to know how to respond... (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 18:30)
peter wilkinson replied to Andrew In the phrase ‘the missional implications of the LGBT “problem”, what kind of “problem” is being inferred? The item posted suggests that because LGBT people are becoming more visible and socially... (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 15:22)
Andrew replied to Doane It’s the “set by God before humanity” part that I’m wondering about. Genesis 1-2 was given to Israel. Were the Canaanites told? Leviticus was part of the Jewish Law. Presumably first century Jews in... (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 12:13)
Andrew replied to peter wilkinson Possibly. But you’d have to explain what you mean. (Tue, 19/09/2017 - 12:06)
Doane Andrew, Do you believe there are any boundaries set by God before humanity as absolute in regards to sexual relations? As always, thanks. Darren Doane (Mon, 18/09/2017 - 15:16)
peter wilkinson I enjoyed the response of Peter Enns to the Nashville Statement. In your piece, I think to use terms like ‘the missional implications of the LGBT “problem” ’ may actually be part of the problem. (Mon, 18/09/2017 - 11:29)
Andrew replied to Richard Worden Wilson Fair comment, Richard. The reference to “boundary conditions” suggests that for most of us, most of the time, sexual/gender identity is clear and uncontroversial. There is considerable focus on the... (Sun, 17/09/2017 - 18:36)
Richard Worden Wilson I haven’t read your whole text, but my first thought was why would you think of sexuality as subject to the “complex, shifting boundary conditions of human sexuality,” but treat the interpretation... (Sun, 17/09/2017 - 01:10)

Neither the prince of Tyre nor the king of Babylon is Satan

Scott Melendrez I believe Lucifer was a Devine king on earth that was favored by God and became so vain with power that was gave him to overthrow nations .. with the main logic God made the devil satin for us to... (Fri, 15/09/2017 - 23:35)