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Why we should contain rather than extinguish the fires of hell

gary The concept of eternity in Hell is terrifying. If you die tonight, where will YOU spend eternity??? https://lutherwasnotbornagaincom.wordpress.com/2018/03/19/if-you-die-ton… (Tue, 20/03/2018 - 22:22)
Andrew replied to Brian Midmore Brian, thanks for this. A good consideration.Paul says that Jews and Greeks who seek glory, honour and immortality by patiently doing good work will receive the life of the age (zōēn aiōnion). The... (Tue, 20/03/2018 - 18:20)
Brian Midmore When you mention Rom 2. 6-10 you say that those who do not obey the truth will suffer exclusion from eternal life. Paul says that they are not only excluded but that they will suffer indignation,... (Tue, 20/03/2018 - 08:07)
Alex Dalton replied to Andrew I just bought your “Hell and Heaven…” off amazon. (Wed, 14/03/2018 - 19:46)
Andrew replied to Alex Dalton Thanks, Alex. Needs people to share it then, doesn’t it! :-) (Wed, 14/03/2018 - 18:54)
Alex Dalton Excellent. I really think this is the way to go with all of this hell business and I’d like to see these views spread. Unfortunately there is such a strong tradition of eternal conscious torment... (Wed, 14/03/2018 - 16:26)

7 things you need to know about the kingdom of God

Andrew replied to Peter Thank you. Yes, that crossed my mind. I was thinking more of the progressive idea that bring in the kingdom of God means collaborating with God in building a better world. The New Testament argument... (Thu, 08/03/2018 - 15:57)
Peter Excellent post! I might push back slightly on #6 because I think Paul thought mission work among Gentiles might cause jealousy followed by repentance among Jews, which I believe he saw as tied to... (Wed, 07/03/2018 - 23:52)
Philip Ledgerwood #5 will shock you! (Wed, 07/03/2018 - 14:23)

Scripture, same-sex marriage, natural law, and the narrative-historical method

Andrew replied to p duggan Gudorf says that “the rejection of natural law left Protestant theology with difficulty in dealing with historical transformations in consciousness and culture”. That holds, presumably, whether we... (Thu, 08/03/2018 - 15:47)
p duggan “historical transformations in consciousness and culture” We need discernment on these, and I would think the biblical narrative (which includes a constant tendency of humans to seek their own way,... (Wed, 07/03/2018 - 17:10)
Andrew replied to peter wilkinson Do you see this as an endorsement of your own argument for “a limited and localised storyline within human history”, which might make natural law arguments irrelevant? Do you have a view about... (Sat, 03/03/2018 - 09:12)
Andrew replied to Paul Prins The issue with this approach to natural law is that it assumes humans are rational & critical actors. This would have allowed the ongoing use of slavery in the US. Instead of a more broad... (Wed, 28/02/2018 - 18:10)

The narrative logic of salvation from the point of view of a Jewish apostle

Bob MacDonald I am probably not ready for this conversation, but - can you say all this without recourse to the words atonement or propitiation? (I hope to be ready within the year.) (Wed, 07/03/2018 - 07:33)
Peter I’ve mentioned before that I think your historical-narrative view sometimes comes across as quite strained, and I would say this is another area where I see that. I think you can find interpretations... (Wed, 07/03/2018 - 00:46)

Gentiles needed the death of Jesus as much as Jews did, but for different reasons

Andrew replied to Peter Continued here. (Tue, 06/03/2018 - 15:29)
Andrew replied to Peter Yes, this is important. My argument rests on the assumption that what’s at stake is the continuing historical existence of the community of God’s people. For that the biblical-Jewish questions are... (Tue, 06/03/2018 - 09:22)
Larry Siegle replied to Andrew The Biblical narrative involves two basic issues in the need for redemption. Since it was through Adam that “the sin” and “the death” entered into the world of humanity, his “condemnation” prevented... (Mon, 05/03/2018 - 18:00)
Peter replied to Peter When I look at Paul’s carefully crafted argument from Romans 1-5, and I examine Paul’s teaching on this subject in his other epistles, I cannot not see Jesus as the propitiation for the sins of both... (Mon, 05/03/2018 - 15:43)
Peter replied to Andrew I suspect one reason we’re interpreting things differently is that we are assigning different perspectives and motivations to Jesus and Paul. I think both Jesus and Paul expected Jesus to return to... (Mon, 05/03/2018 - 00:26)
Andrew replied to Peter Thanks for the responses. I’ll address your first point here. I don’t disagree with the second point. I’ll look at the passages that you cite in defence of the traditional view that Jesus died “as... (Sun, 04/03/2018 - 22:14)
Peter One thing I like about the Historical hermeneutic is the fact that it evaluates each text as a product of the time in which it was written and tries hard not to import later (or earlier) perspectives... (Sun, 04/03/2018 - 13:22)
Peter Andrew, I agree with much of this post, but there are a few important areas of disagreement. First, I don’t think the curse of the Law was eschatological condemnation. I think the curse of the Law... (Sun, 04/03/2018 - 04:09)

Do both the good and the bad go to Hades?

Tyler Lyons replied to Andrew Thanks Andrew, that puts things in a better perspective. (Sun, 04/03/2018 - 16:54)

The logic of salvation for Jews and Gentiles in Paul

Andrew replied to Peter Hi Peter, thanks. Here’s an attempted response. (Sat, 03/03/2018 - 19:05)
Peter Paul says in Romans 3 that Jews are not made righteous by the Law but by faith. And he says the example of Abraham shows this was always the case. Then in v25 he seems to be trying to show why Jesus... (Thu, 01/03/2018 - 02:41)

The marriage of the Lamb and his Bride and the not-so-happy-ever-after

Andrew replied to Alex F That’s a good question. John is clearly not trying to describe a literal resurrection, something that might have been seen happening some time in the fourth century. So how are we to assess the... (Sat, 03/03/2018 - 09:43)
Alex F Perhaps you’ve written on this before, Andrew, but do you think John believed the first resurrection would be a physical one (one like Jesus’)? Or is he imagining something akin to the resurrection... (Wed, 28/02/2018 - 18:50)

He shall rule over you

Anca replied to Paul “(the woman being tempted, the woman leading the man) that was part of what went wrong in the fall - and part of what was cursed. “ As if it would have been any better if it were Adam to be tempted... (Fri, 02/03/2018 - 08:45)

Could you please help me understand the practical consequences…?

Helge Seekmp Dear Andrew, Since I discovered your site some couple of months ago I am very impressed and delighted if I was your approach. Now I have read much of your stuff and like it very much. This specific... (Wed, 28/02/2018 - 20:09)